Cliff, 91, emails from New Zealand to say: "This comes from my first leave from the Navy at Easter 1941. We are sitting on a pile of building material for the Women’s Land Army hostel, then being built opposite our house, 4 Redcombe Lane."
Top row: left to right, Charlie Beel; Norman Waters (son of Freddie Waters, the Wrawby Street butcher); Cliff Turner.
Lower: Dick Killip and Cliff's brother Ken, who joined the Navy in 1942.
All five attended Brigg Grammar School.
The Roman Catholic priest in Brigg, Father Beel, was Charlie’s older brother.
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Your Victorian row of cottages in Redcombe Lane has subsequently been re-numbered, Cliff.
From the right they start at No 12, so I assume your 'No 4' is now 14.
The streetscape has obviously changed...the ground, presumably open land, in the 40's, belonging to Carlton House in Grammar School Rd (or was it still called Westmoor Rd?) on the cottages's side, and towards GSR, now contains houses/bungalows from the mid 1960's.
Opposite the cottages on the south side of RL are even newer houses circa ?1990's, or even later.
Diagonally opposite and towards the right from the cottages is the purposely built Brigg Carers' Centre, while to the diagonally left to the rear is the under-construction Vale school..presumably now occupying some of the land that you have previously described as being the site of the pig-sties.
It may prove useful if I take some snaps of the area, Cliff, to put RL in a modern perspective...and ask Nige to show in BB..
I just wonder whether the Brigg Carers's Centre now occupies the site of the Land Army hut.
Nigel is old enough hopefully to remember the site and perhaps he can throw some further info about the site..
Sorry, got the numbering wrong...the cottages (4 + 2) start at 16 - 20 then 22 & 24...Cliff's, by an educated guess, would be 18..
Just taken a stroll along RL..there is evidence that the Carers' Centre in now on the site of the Land Army hut.
Within the trimmed hawthorn hedge fronting the site there are a number of old concrete posts, seemingly there to support a past wire fence. Also, there is a hydrant, an essential need for a wooden accommodation hut...
Just for interest, the garden wall in front of cottage, now No 16, appears to built of the identical blocks that Cliff and his gang are sitting on..
Perhaps I'll get this numbering right at the 4th attempt.
Obviously, if the cottages at the time were the only houses in RL, then they would be number sequentially 1,2,3,4,5,6...no need for odd/even alternative..so No 4 could well be the last one in the first row of 4 ,cottages..with 5 and 6 being the semi-detached cottages next door.
Perhaps I'll get this numbering right at the 4th attempt.
Obviously, if the cottages at the time were the only houses in RL, then they would be number sequentially 1,2,3,4,5,6...no need for odd/even alternative..so No 4 could well be the last one in the first row of 4 ,cottages..with 5 and 6 being the semi-detached cottages next door.
Although it is now conventional to number houses with the odd numbers on one side of the road and even numbered houses on the other, there are a number of roads in Brigg that oppose such convention..
The numbering in Glebe Rd, for example, from the junction with GSR starts with 1 on the left and thereafter, houses are numbered sequentially...2.3.4.etc..except it's not that easy..
One would expect the numbering to continue in a sequential manner down the right-hand side of the road, so No1 would be opposite the highest numbered house in the road...wrong.
While it is true for the Victorian terraced houses, the 4, or so 1960ish houses down the opposite end of GRd carry the highest house numbers.
Another confusing aspect is that Bigby Rd..the road leading to the railway x-ing doesn't start from the Monument, as perhaps most people expect, but from the junction with Queen St/Albert St.
The 7 bed-roomed mock Tudor houses along Bigby Rd don't have numbers, just names...The numbered houses along Bigby Road start from the terraced houses near the rear entrance of The Brit..
Bigby ROAD does not become Bigby STREET until after the old post office..Very confusing for emergency services..I used to live in one of these big houses and it wasn't uncommon for a doctor/ambulance crew to come a-knocking looking for 4,6, or 8 Bigby Road....dwellings that were located in the Elizabeth Terrace row of cottages..
But, there again, more confusion...between Elizabeth Terrace and Elizabeth Court....I'm sure the posties know where these places are, but it can confuse us mortal souls.
....and it doesn't finish there...where, for example, is the end of Glebe Rd.??..the road, indeed, is 3 roads wrapped in one...at the far end of Glebe Rd, which isn't really Glebe Rd it becomes East Parade on the right ,but West Terrace on the left-hand-side.
Some reliable person recalls that the Carers' Centre site was previosly the office of Agric & Fisheries....she had a friend who worked there....
Some reliable person recalls that the Carers' Centre site was previosly the office of Agric & Fisheries....she had a friend who worked there....
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